College Game Q and A With Dating Coach Dubbsy

10/18/09Filed under: Pickup

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College Game Question:

I’ve just finished your college game videos and they are fucking amazing. I, no offense, thought it wouldn’t be that good and thought you could just use regular game for college (I’m a freshman at Rutgers university) but after watching your videos and reading your blog I was blown away. It was not only amazing, it is essential for anyone who wants to get girls in college…its just so awesome.
I would, first of all, like to thank you for making these videos and letting others view them from free on your blog because I’m a little low on money being a college student and all and really appreciated it. When I do save enough money I will def. take a bootcamp with you (once again its a little impractical right now because I have to pay for tuition) cause your just fucking awesome (in case you didn’t catch on from the other 10 times I’ve said it).
I would also like to ask you a question about college game, there is this one girl in my class who I am gaming and on Thursday I’m planning on building some commonality between us then eventually, when she does know me a lot more (she only knows me a little bit right now), tease her to get attraction from her. Anyway I was wondering if this would work to get girls in college, i know you also need a high social value, even if they have boyfriends? I was also wondering if there are things that you can talk about so they really “connect” with you? Like would I just talk about music and TV and pop culture in general with her in order to build rapport before teasing?

Any advice on the topic would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks a lot,

-Jason

Dubbsy

Response from Dubbsy

Dubbsy is a former student of mine and he has helped me on numerous bootcamps.  He is a rising star for sure. He recently graduated college.  We have very similar mindsets and strategies and I’ve been extremely busy lately so I asked him if he would field the questions from this email.
Take it away Dubbsy….

Hey what’s up Jason,

You got some great questions, and I’m gonna list them and write my answers in bold…
“I would also like to ask you a question about college game, there is this one girl in my class who I am gaming and on Thursday I’m planning on building some commonality between us then eventually, when she does know me a lot more (she only knows me a little bit right now), tease her to get attraction from her. Anyway I was wondering if this would work to get girls in college, i know you also need a high social value, even if they have boyfriends?”

Ok I’m going to assume that by “knows you a little” you mean you guys have met, shared some banter in class, know each others names and maybe what dorm you’re in.  Which isn’t bad, in fact this can be good as long as you establish situational value and buzz, and you can do this by talking to everyone else in and around your class.  A favorite tactic of mine was to make friends with all the people in the classes next to mine , so that in the hallway all these random people would be coming up to me and talking to me about some past/future night and then walk away, showing that I have friends and am social with people not only in class, but outside of it as well (aka what Braddock said in his youtube clips to network like a mother fucker!! andwhile you’re busy doing this just keep the conversations between you two casual and neutral rapport, unless she pushes the envelope, you want to mirror the level of intent and interest she’s giving you). They can be girls or guys, doesn’t matter as long as they’re not talking to you about the intense chess match last friday at the library’s anniversary party, or some Furry style gang-bang party, this is a high value trait, and as Braddock says, “girls will fill in other traits they don’t know about you with assumed high value traits”, GOD

Passing Notes

THAT IS SO MONEY!! and if used correctly has the some of the most powerful impact on girls I’ve ever seen.
Ok so she’s seen you have friends in and outside of class, maybe the teacher likes you in a way that’s not kiss assey and over reaching (ie, sucking up and baking muffins and doing random unmentioned “extra credit” assignments), where do you go now? can you just jump in and tease tease tease, qualify, comfort, and get a hand job under the desk?? IIIIIIIII don’t think so ;-) .  From here you have to just start a conversation.  If she sits next to you, ask her if she get’s what the teacher is talking about, draw a dots/tic tac toe board and pass it to her, smile stretch and get started.  if she laughs but doesn’t play, don’t be bummed, and don’t invest too much in conversation during class, because she might actually be there to learn and not be chatted up by guys (why, I don’t know, girls are just weird like that ;-) ), but after class start up a new conversation, talk about how you’re happy that it’s your last class and are looking forward to tonight, it’s almost socially awkward for her to not ask what’s going on tonight, so tell her about the big party that’s being passed around campus (if you don’t know about them then you need to network more!!).

If she doesn’t sit next to you, just walk up and either say “Hi, so did you have any idea what he was talkin about during that whole Gross National Product formula thing?” or “Listen I’m gonna give you a head start and warn you, I saw you falling asleep and I think it’s only fair that the professor knows about this, I mean he’s grading on a curve and if you fail that gives me a better chance of getting an A :) .” Don’t bring up the parties you’ve THROWN or GONE TO, because that’s kinda braggy, instead ask her about where she parties, talk to her about how you’re feeling like you’re finally building your strong group of friends here and comin into your own at the school.

By all means if she asks you about parties, your friends, plans, etc, answer, and invite HER AND HER FRIENDS (real important) to come to them.  1) all girls feel more comfortable going to places with their friends, especially if they don’t know if they’ll have any friends there…2) this makes it seem like you’re just the cool guy inviting her to the party, which will create buzz for you with her friends and anyone else they talk to, which will only increase your value in their eyes and they’ll even play you up to her as really cool as well. 3) if they come to the party and ask for you, now you’re the cool dude who brought a group of hot girls to party which will increase your social value with them and get you more invites and notoriety.  But say she doesn’t ask you about it, don’t push it, you want to be in neutral rapport with her, ask her about the work in class, if she gets it, can she explain this one part to you, can you cheat off her on the tests (if she doesn’t get the work you can tease her for not being able to cheat off her and now you have to change seats).

Study with her for tests, and by study I mean pretend to study and have her over or go over to her place and bullshit and get off topic, leave the door open and meet as many people as you can in the dorm, look at YouTube clips, check out her movies or her posters, be in and out of her room, if you know people in her building drag her to introduce her to them.  Unless it’s on, if she says yeah come over to study and you show up to her drunk with a ruler, plaid mini skirt, white half-unbuttoned blouse with no panties on, you better take care of business or donate your cock to some transgender operation subject that will.  But otherwise, in class, you really just want to avoid conversation that seems like a pick up, or things you would run out at a bar or club, because she’s there to learn (and a side effect meet people and network) but not to be gamed, at least not blatantly because that’s just socially awkward.
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The main point to get across there is to let her assume high value traits of yours based off of what she sees, until she actually makes the slightest effort to get to know you/hang out with you/talk to you/etc.. then you have the upper hand in the power ratio and can gradually escalate along the emotional progression/LS triad model, start qualifying building wide and deep rapport all the while physically and logistically escalating all OUT OF CLASS!!  And in the name of all things holy remember that NEUTRAL RAPPORT DOESN’T MEAN BE THE NICE PUSSY GUY.  I’m from near your area and you have to be able to bust balls and show boundaries and that you’re not a push over pussy guy, you just don’t know about her yet and aren’t blatantly open with EVERYONE you meet.

If you want some more specific feedback to your situation just ask something more direct like… “I’ve tried to get her out to meet me using XYZ tactics, but it’s not working now what?” lemme know and we’ll figure something out!

” I was also wondering if there are things that you can talk about so they really “connect” with you? Like would I just talk about music and TV and pop culture in general with her in order to build rapport before teasing?”

A lot of times guys in college don’t know that they start out on a higher level than they think.  And what I mean by that is, you two already have a good amount in common for groundwork, you’re both at the same school, same class, which could already suggest a bunch of other similarities like your major, interests, hobbies, area you’re from (take my Alum for example, was in the center of a state, so roughly 80% of the population was from that state, and only about 30 miles radius, max, away from it), and where your general mindset is at right now.  You’re a freshmen so think about where you mindset is at right now? You want to make friends, meet people, be invited to all the cool parties, have plans for every night of the week, not that you’ll follow through with them but just as back-ups.  Girls are the same way, but they know that by just being friendly with people it’ll happen because that’s how the pretty people navigate through life, and that’s how they’ve done it.  So that’s how you have to do it, or make it seem like you do it.

So to get more specific to your question… you want to start out on the general topics and mindsets listed above, with spikes of personal shit in between.  So an example of this could be “So what about Art history 101 really gets you  goin ;) ? (said as a joke and I’m pretty sure art history 101 is a mandatory intro course). And maybe she says “I don’t care about any of this history stuff, I just took it because it had Art in the title and I need it for my major.” “ohhh so you’re an artist, that’s pretty cool I don’t have an artistic bone in my body. You paint?” and now you’re on to something a little personal, but then go back to broad shit so you don’t come on real try hard or gamey.

The thing about college, especially freshmen year, is that people are there to experiment and do new and crazy shit.  They’ve just been in a small area where everyone knows them and judges them and are coming to a big place where they don’t have to worry about the consequences of their actions (in terms of reputation) as much.  You don’t need to build deep rapport and share a shit ton of commonalities to get laid, hell you barely have to share a conversation! Just being in the right place at the right time can and will get you laid in school, but in order to be there you need to follow Braddock‘s College Game and Social Circle Mastery outlines.

And remember that keeping the fun and light frame, combined with you two seeing each other a lot, establishes comfort and assumes familiarity, which is really all you need to sleep with girls in you meet in school, that with the traits Braddock talks about in his video’s (buzz, situational value, etc…).  If you want to make this girl your girlfriend then yes you’ll need all the deep comfort and golden mirror and all that jazz, but if you just want to sleep with a lot of hot girls and party, stick with fun and repeated appearance

So I hope this is helpful and you got a lot out of it, and if anything is unclear or needs to be touched upon some more or get more detailed on certain aspects, let me know.  Comments and feedback and welcomed and encouraged!!


good luck and keep us posted Jason!!

- Dubbsy

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One Response to “College Game Q and A With Dating Coach Dubbsy”

  1. Skyler, on August 17th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Great post Jason and Dubbsy. I learned a lot because this is the tatic I like to use because it coming from a place of none needness and nutral repor. IT also show that Love system triad model and seduction period is best done in slow process and not some one liner pickup line. Take your time with girls, network and get better at lowering her defence barriers. Success does not happen over nigt. Girls are more interested in Social Skill and intuitons than waht you talk about as long as its not boring or wierd. Also she will test you see if you are high value to make sure

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