11/25/09Filed under: Pickup

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Originally Posted by blazedjin I seemed to get girls real number at bars but as soon as I call they don’t remember me when I tell them my name. I would have to remind them its the asian guy since I am the only asian person at this particular bar. I recently got a number from girl and called the next day after we first met. She said she would call back but never did. I called her the next day only to get a voicemail instead, so I left a voicemail and still no response. How much calls should I attempt before I just give up? Also why do girls give out their real numbers at bars if they aren’t even intrested in you. I would rather get fake number than to get my hopes up.

Usually flaky numbers are a symptom of something you did when you met, not always the style of phone or text game.

(However, its key to remember that no matter how good you get, you will still deal with flakes. Especially if you are meeting most of the women in your life through cold approach. It happens)

I have a feeling you are getting ‘some’ attraction and very little connection and investment on her end and then BAM, “Can I get your number?” Like CMPitts said, “It’s easier to just give it and flake than deal with the awkwardness of saying, “No.”

Also, remember that women live in the emotional moment. This means she may have genuinely wanted to give you her number at that moment, but 1 or 2 days later she’s not feeling the exact same way she did when you met.

I am just guessing here, but I’m going to assume you are asking for the number way to early, well before she is invested.

A few quick things that reduce flaky numbers:
*Getting all the way to comfort.
*Catching and releasing her early and reopening her and asking for the number the second or 3rd time you flirt that night.
*Hinting at loose future plans
*Bouncing her around the bar
*Bouncing her to another venue
*Qualifying and making specific statements of interest
*Doing takeaways to get her chasing and making her feel like she had to work to get you
*Push/Pull all night so she knows you are a fun guy who won’t be to serious or creepy on a date.
*Getting her to save your name and phone number in your phone.
*Texting her something funny while you are still standing there talking to her to get the ball rolling for later.

Simply as an exercise:
Go out for a few weeks and don’t ask for numbers unless THEY hint at you guys hanging out. Push the level of attraction and connection to a point where they are almost coming on to you. (This is hard to do and not something you can do everytime) but it’s a good exercise. It will help you see the window of when you should ask for the number.

-Braddock

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