MGMT – Electric Feel
Weird dudes…cool song.
Hate My Life – Theory of a Deadman
Love this song!!! Lyrics are awesome
Free Phone And Text Game Conference Call For Lucky Few
Two of the world’s best dating coaches and experts on “Phone and Text Game” will be doing a LIVE, EXCLUSIVE and FREE conference call to answer YOUR phone and text game questions. Guys, you will want to be apart of this. Savoy and I rarely get to sit down and share our game knowledge together because we are so busy. You will want to take part in this. There are not very many spots left, so make sure you sign up ASAP. I’ve been reading your questions and putting my notes together all week for this! Can’t wait.
Topics discussed will include:
- Turning your phone numbers into dates
- Conquering “flakiness” – have her make plans and keep them
- Using phone and text game to set the mood BEFORE the date (CRUCIAL!)
- And much more!
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Phone and Text Game: How To Reduce Flaky Numbers
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Originally Posted by blazedjin
 I seemed to get girls real number at bars but as soon as I call they don’t remember me when I tell them my name. I would have to remind them its the asian guy since I am the only asian person at this particular bar. I recently got a number from girl and called the next day after we first met. She said she would call back but never did. I called her the next day only to get a voicemail instead, so I left a voicemail and still no response. How much calls should I attempt before I just give up? Also why do girls give out their real numbers at bars if they aren’t even intrested in you. I would rather get fake number than to get my hopes up.
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Usually flaky numbers are a symptom of something you did when you met, not always the style of phone or text game.
(However, its key to remember that no matter how good you get, you will still deal with flakes. Especially if you are meeting most of the women in your life through cold approach. It happens)
I have a feeling you are getting ’some’ attraction and very little connection and investment on her end and then BAM, “Can I get your number?” Like CMPitts said, “It’s easier to just give it and flake than deal with the awkwardness of saying, “No.”
Also, remember that women live in the emotional moment. This means she may have genuinely wanted to give you her number at that moment, but 1 or 2 days later she’s not feeling the exact same way she did when you met.
I am just guessing here, but I’m going to assume you are asking for the number way to early, well before she is invested.
A few quick things that reduce flaky numbers:
*Getting all the way to comfort.
*Catching and releasing her early and reopening her and asking for the number the second or 3rd time you flirt that night.
*Hinting at loose future plans
*Bouncing her around the bar
*Bouncing her to another venue
*Qualifying and making specific statements of interest
*Doing takeaways to get her chasing and making her feel like she had to work to get you
*Push/Pull all night so she knows you are a fun guy who won’t be to serious or creepy on a date.
*Getting her to save your name and phone number in your phone.
*Texting her something funny while you are still standing there talking to her to get the ball rolling for later.
Simply as an exercise:
Go out for a few weeks and don’t ask for numbers unless THEY hint at you guys hanging out. Push the level of attraction and connection to a point where they are almost coming on to you. (This is hard to do and not something you can do everytime) but it’s a good exercise. It will help you see the window of when you should ask for the number.
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Dating Coach Helicase On: How to Get Good With Women Fast
How To Get Good With Women FAST
My good friend and Love Systems dating coach Helicase wrote this great article for my blog this week. Helicase helps me on most of my bootcamps. He often does one on one’s on the Thursday before the bootcamp or on the Sunday after if you are interested in taking one with him. Helicase has probably the top 5 best game of anyone I’ve ever seen and his teaching and ability to break down game are fast catching up. He is one of the few guys I’ve met who can consistently pull 9’s and 10’s. I’ve learned a lot from this guy and it’s been a real treat when I can get Helicase and Daxx to help me out on my bootcamps.
This is a great post by Helicase.
Learning Game The Fastest Way Possible:
Even though I’ve been a dating coach for a while now, most nights when I go out I still get approach anxiety. After talking to the other love systems dating coaches, I’ve found that most do. I’ve found writing out goals, a really great process that helps me overcome approach anxiety and additionally helps me implement new pieces to my game easily. People think they are not improving because they are telling brain what is supposed to do faster than it can implement. This leads to frustration and causes you to lose interest in going out because your brain overestimates how many attempts it has made.
On Braddock’s suggestion I read Brian Tracey’s Book Psychology of Achievement, which has some amazing sections on goal setting, which I’ve applied to game. Also from Braddock I stopped reading everything I could get and started spending 2 hours in-field implementing for every hour I spent reading which we’ll cover later. I actually started setting and measuring goals in this way in another area of my life before I read Brian Tracey’s book to overcome limiting beliefs. Before game and before learning to work out properly I used to be extremely shy, and extremely skinny, and I thought I would live and die that way because I started so many workouts and did not seem to make any real progress in strength or weight gains. I figured I was stuck being a twig. I’d learn everything about a new workout program workout for what seemed like months and my bench would maybe go from 85lbs to 100lbs. I would get frustrated at the paltry gains and give up.
I had stopped working out and my body weakened back to an 85lb bench based on the belief that I just couldn’t get big. Then I joined a sport that I really enjoyed but that requires a lot of strength and conditioning (boxing). As a team we tested and recorded how much we could lift to get a baseline on where we were starting. Based on this we used formulas to determine weekly goals and a final goal based on 3 total months of training. As usual I didn’t seem to be making any gains… maybe 5lbs more than normal based on this new system so I was up to 105lbs on bench. But then I looked back through my workout log and realized I had only worked out 12 times in 3 weeks. Which comes out to 6.5lbs per week, putting me on track to go up around 80lbs in 3 months to 165 or nearly double where I started.
By writing out my goals my actual progress was put into perspective, normally negative beliefs would cloud my judgment, but by writing my goals down I realized I was making huge gains, even though negative thoughts were trying to convince me I had been working out for 2 months, it was only 3 weeks. Seeing the FACT that I had gone to the gym only 12 times and progressed faster than my goal of 5lbs per week made me even MORE enthusiastic about hitting the gym and I ended up beating all my goals at the end of 3 months.
Many times people starting out in game or even guys who have been out there for a while forget their baseline. They only think in terms of sex as a final motive, “Oh, I went out and didn’t get laid again… I’m not getting any better even after half a year”. But in reality they’ve only been going out for 2 months and even though it feels like they are doing 20 sets per night 4 nights a week, they have actually only gone out 1.5 nights and opened maybe 2-3 sets per night on average (including the nights they got huge anxiety and just stood there all night). So all told 12 times and 24-36 sets… not a lot.
How do we overcome this distorted feedback?
Hopefully it’s obvious by now, but you need to WRITE out QUANTITATIVE goals… I know what you’re thinking, “But Helicase, I don’t need to write it down I can just think it”. You’re doing it wrong if you’re not writing them down. You are not getting the maximum benefit, and it may help you for a night, but you will forget it. Genius’ do things repeatedly, they do something once and their brain records it and it is set as a default for next time. This is how naturals get good; their brain is able to repeat the process every time. YOU can NOT do this, or I would have seen you at Harvard this past weekend stealing girls from me.. (And I didn’t because if I did I would have gotten your info, learned from you and broken your game down to teach to students.)
But there is an easy way to replicate what genius’ do. WRITE IT DOWN.
Alright let’s get this boiling:
Write out quantitative goals.
Quantitative goals have NUMBERS… (re-read this 3 times and attach it to goals)
i.e. I want to approach 10 sets tonight, I want to do 3 warm up sets
So the basic structure that I use and that really helped students this weekend in Boston was to set up a total number of sets they wanted to open including warm ups. And also include the number of times they were going to use certain transitions (i.e. Good girl bad girl 5 times – & – Finger Length Routine 5 times.) on the first night and number of times they were going to use a specific routine (i.e. handshake routine 5 times and Body guard role-play 5 times). You can also set the goal of “I’m going to learn x routine by using it every single set for 2 nights, 10 sets per night:
1. Write Long and Short Term Goals
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- Short Term:
- Detailed below in number 2, basically what you’ll refer to on a nightly basis
- Long Term:
- Take your short-term goals and decide how many times you want to accomplish your short-term goal.
- *Example*: Let’s say your short-term goal is to open 10 sets per night: Goal: Open 10 Sets Per Night for 10 nights by going out 2 times per week for 5 weeks. 100 Approaches total.
- Completing your short-term goal 10 times by going out 2 nights per week for 5 weeks is your long-term goal.
- Short Term:
2. Writing good warm up goals: Warm up EVERY NIGHT (credit Braddock). We want to use warm up sets to GRADUALLY increase the amount of social pressure we’re putting on ourselves. Start with the easiest people to talk to and work up to the hardest. It’s just like a warm up when you work out, Arnold could bench 500lbs but he always warmed up with the bar and slowly worked his way up to that weight. So think of some people who are easy to talk to ________________________________? “Hey how’s your night going?” is something I ask probably 5-10 people before I approach the first girl in the bar. I usually buy gum and chat with the clerk chat with my cab driver, chat with the door guy about the venue or weather, girls in line, the list goes on and on.
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- Store clerks, cabbies, random people on the street
- Guys who work at the venue (casual convo)
- Guys who are just hanging out but don’t work there (casual convo)
- Girls who work there (light compliments & teases)
- Girls who DON’T work there (causal convo and light game)
f. **An example** 3 warm up sets: 1 male worker, 2 girls You need to include numbers for everything, 3 warm-ups is NOT good enough.
g. I also start with the easiest things to say: functional questions: how’s your night? Do you know what time it is? Do you know where x,y,z is? Then move to something harder like Light compliments: Cool Shoes man, Cool Shirt man, Cute shoes, etc. Then finally move into openers and teasing.
3. Set goals for NON warm up approaches.
a. If you’re starting out be realistic about your current experience, i.e. take a good baseline. If you’ve never gone out before don’t try to do 20 sets your first night. What is a good goal? Take your current baseline and add 50% so if you’re at 4 per week set the goal to do 6 approaches this week (50% of 4 =2 4+2=6 . And 9 the next, 14 the next and 20 the next etc. Multiply what you’re currently doing by 1.5 you’ve got your new goal.
b. The KEY here is to take an accurate baseline of what you’re ACTUALLY doing. The brain likes to distort reality to protect your ego. In food studies people skewed the amount they thought they ate by HUGE percentages so they could avoid responsibility for their weight. So be brutally honest with yourself if you want to make real progress. GO OUT AND ACTUALLY RECORD THE NUMBER
4. How do I use this to add new pieces to my game the smart and efficient way?
a. Setting goals for number of approaches is great if you’re learning to open and/or trying to get over early night jitters, but what if most of your sets are hooking? GREAT! You should still set goals for the night, but if you’ve got opening and transitioning mastered, Start setting goals for how many times you’re going to use a specific piece of material.
b. So let’s say you’re like me and you’re adding dating coach Braddock’s Take-aways and Boundaries & DaHunter’s Sexual Hoops to your game. My goal is to open 6 sets per night, and use take-aways in 3 of them and to use sexual hoops in 3 of them. Having this written down keeps me excited about approaching. Instead of thinking oh what if she blows me out I’m focused on… I really want to try out sexual-hoops, I really want to practice my take-aways.
c. Another example when you’re getting past the goals of opening and transitioning would be “use the marriage role-play in 4 sets tonight, and ask for phone numbers in at least 3 sets”. Even if you don’t have the perfect opportunity to ask for a number forcing yourself to ask prepares you for when you do have a great set in the future.
5. Keeping Track. The end of your goals should be a space labeled RESULTS. Write down how many sets you did, and how many times you implemented a specific skill you’re trying to learn. If you keep getting stuck remember where you went wrong and think of what you could have said or done because when it comes up again your brain will default to what you wrote and you will improve like crazy!
Writing all of these goals down and referring back to them will help keep you focused on building solid game from the beginning of the emotional progression model to the end. Mastering each step then adding the next is the fastest way to learn game and setting and recording your goals is the best way to hold yourself to it, keep it fun, and see how fast you improve.
Why does this help so much? Because the brain is a goal seeking entity and by setting small goals you get a shot of dopamine every time you check one off. Setting small goals like this will turn learning game into a slightly less habit-forming version of crack. You will have something to be happy about every night, this changes you from a glass half empty guy, straight into a Glass is overflowing guy.
I learned most of this from Braddock and DaHunter as well as Brian Tracey. We tried it out at Mr. M’s last bootcamp and it really seemed to help students stay on track and not get lost. And remember for every hour spent reading material spend 2 hours in the field.
Goal 1: Write out quantitative Goals for 1 Month.
Goals:
Results:
Have fun,
-Helicase
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Dating Coach Dubbsy On Same Night Lays
Same Night Lays
I was just listening to Braddock and Daxx’s interview on Take-aways & Boundaries and it’s inspired me to write up a post on how to get one night stands, and getting them to leave after. This is pretty much what I aim for when I go out, I’m not really interested in dates, or a girl friend right now, so this post is going to stick to one night stands & maybe later on I’ll write up another on friends with benefits.
A lot of my one night stand game came from listening to and watching Braddock, Daxx, Mr. M, Calabrese, Soul, and Pendrixx. All of these guys have tremendous game and taught me (and continue to teach me) a lot, but they still can’t beat me, and can suck it!!
This is going to be a long post, and will be broken up into segments so that you don’t go numb from sitting in front of your computer….
Ok so here it goes, Dubbsy’s One Night Stand game, take what you will and add what you want…
One night stands come down to 6 main themes:
- Moving them
- Going sexual
- Frame control
- Tension and the release of it
- Being playful
- Being seen as a scarce resource (feeling of loss).
So that’s what we’ll be talking about folks, I’m going to start off with the last of the topics mentioned, scarce resource, and give you an easy, fun, and effective way to do it
BE SOCIAL!!
Something Braddock makes everyone do in his seminar is social proof the room. This is money because for one, it gets your warmed up and in a social mood. Your brain starts turning, you start enjoying the environment and treating it like your playground instead of some frightening judging place. Another thing it does is get you noticed, not just by the girls, but by EVERYONE.
People will see you interacting with everyone and will want to get to know you, guys see you talking to mad girls, and they want to know how you know them, what you’re saying, who you are (leader of men anyone?)? Girls will see you talking to lots of people and they’ll be curious about you, what’s this guy got going on? And they’ll even sometimes approach you, or what usually happens is they’ll just get close to you and/or make eye contact a couple times. It goes along with the inverted seduction principle that Mr. M wrote about, and what him and Braddock talk about in their Inner Game Seminar.
People see a friendly social guy and their mirror neurons (monkey see monkey do effect) make them feel friendly and social as well, aka more receptive to your opener. ***Don’t think that every set you do this too has to go well in order for this to work and give you Social Proof!!*** I remember Calabrese asking a student, “How’d that set go? Looked like they were into you” (Student was smiling, locked in and engaging everyone in the group). The guy replied “Nah they were cursing me out and telling me to fuck off.” But what Calabrese said next opened my eyes…“Perception is reality.” Cause to us it looked like it went real well, and to everyone else it looks the same!! It doesn’t matter what actually happens in the set, as long as you don’t make a big deal or give off the impression it went bad, nobody will think it did!!
Some of you might be thinking, how does this tie in to one night stands? Social proofing will increase your value to everyone. If you’re perceived as the guy that knows everybody, people will want to get to know you, especially girls, who think that by knowing you will get them special treatment. This also gives off the appearance of options (even if they’re not there) so a girl who sees you doing this will fear losing you to all the other girls you’ve spoken to tonight. It creates a sub-conscious feeling of loss, and girls hate that…they’re so competitive!!
Ok so you’ve social proofed the room, warmed up your mouth and brain, now what? Now we’re going to lay out the details of one night stand theory for you.
One night stand game is a combination of
1) Thresholds
2) Being Playful (role-plays/teasing/flirting)
3) Push-pull
4) Sexual-Hoops
5) Take-aways
6) Force framing
7) Physical escalation and tension, and
8) Sexual tension. Let’s get into each topic:
1) Thresholds (Braddock has written extensively on this, below is a summation of it):
• A threshold is what it takes for a woman to go home with you that same night
• every girl has different threshold, you have to find out what their blueprint is
◦ you do this by reading her signals, how she reacts to things like sexual comments, your touch, ideas of you guys moving around the bar, leaving together, going to eat, etc…
◦ see what buttons turn them on and which ones turn them off. I’ve literally laughed girls into bed and have them say “I love sense of humor in a guy”, but I’ve also lost girls by playing the funny card too often. Some will want to connect with you intellectually, and have you show them something different that they’ve never seen/done before, you gotta test the waters and see what hits and what doesn’t, then throw out what isn’t working and keep what is
▪ This goes for touch and verbal aspects as well. Some girls will let you escalate like crazy physically and not talk sexual at all, and some will want you to tell them how they won’t be able to walk right tomorrow… experiment and see what works (more on how to do that later…)
2) Being Playful
• What is Being Playful:
◦ Misinterpreting what they say, teasing, role plays, not taking anything too serious.
• Why being playful works:
◦ This should be self-explanatory but girls go out at night to have fun, and relax. Being playful and fun will allow you to make girls feels more at ease and comfortable with you. A lot of my comfort game is just me being silly with them. You don’t want to run crazy comfort because then they’ll see you as BF material. They still might fuck you that night (lot less likely), but then they’re hooked and you’re going to have a problem getting them to leave or just stay in Friends with Benefits mode without hurting their feelings. You also don’t want to throw comfort out because they gotta know you’re not some creepy dude that invented the date rape drug.
◦ When you’re playful you set the tone of an interaction. They’ll be thinking, “This guy is fun, different and he’s not trying to impress me. Not necessarily a guy I’d take home to meet the rents but I’d fuck him.” The thin-slice of someone who’s playful is that he’s not looking for anything serious because that’s not how he’s acting, he’s spontaneous, a little crazy, funny, dominating (risk-taker, goes for what he wants), and all these traits will roll over to how she assumes you are in bed.
• So how to be playful:
◦ Role plays – get married, divorced, use content from the convo to assign her roles and positions in life. Example: Girl wound up driving me and my friends around town one night, blasting Beyonce all night long (Beyonce is a stand up gal, and fine as hell, but I’d rather jerk off with sand paper than listen to her music). So now she’s my driver, as long as she gets rid of the Beyonce and looks good in the new limo uniform I picked out for her (dental floss, with a Yankee hat ;-) ). There’s plenty of role plays out there, but I suggest making up your own as you go along, it’s easier and way more effective.
◦ Don’t take anything serious and misinterpret shit. Something Braddock and Daxx will say is “So basically you hate me cause I’m black” even though they’re both white. I’ll introduce myself, get her name and tell them we just got through our first date. It’s just creating silly scenarios that don’t take too much mental effort for them to act out. Over exaggerate everything, if a girl bumps into you and says: “Sorry”; “yeah don’t let that happen again J” “or what!” (maybe this is more a confrontational NY thing) “Well I haven’t hit a girl in like 6 days (start stretching)” – Credit to Braddock.
▪ Caveat to this, if she says something that’s serious or meaningful to her, take it serious and talk about it for a second or two, and then change the topic.
◦ Bar games – Fuck Marry Kill, chopping game, Tell her, people watch, thumb wrestle, there’s a shit ton of games available for you to look up on theattractionforums.com if you’re interested in them.
◦ Flirting – I put this under being playful because well when you flirt you’re not saying anything too serious, it’s pretty much all done in a joking manner. Something I’ll say is “So this is what flirting feels like, sweet, what do I do next?” This will lead into Teasing…
◦ Braddock and Dahunter did a whole interview series on teasing so I’ll just give an overview:
▪ Tease the general: “Oh I’m from the Bronx” “Sweet so which gang did you join after elementary school?”
▪ Call them out on silly shit: “You’re drinking beer out of a bottle?!? What’re you too good for cans or something? High maintenance, I knew it.” When all they serve is bottles (credit Braddock)
▪ Don’t button push and constantly bring up the same joke over and over, it looses it’s resonance and it comes across as try hard
▪ Don’t tease their passions unless you give credit to them first
▪ And tease along a gradient, small teases at first, if she responds well and laughs, maybe banters back, then throw out bigger ones, don’t think you need to escalate to the world series (go Yankees) of teases and throw out the meanest biggest ones you can think of. I usually just do a lot of small ones and maybe run some constant themes through out the interaction.
▪ This is a 30,000 ft view of that interview series and what you’ll learn at workshop, so if you’re interested in hearing more get your ass to one of Braddocks BC’s or get that IVS!!
Ok this is enough to get you guys started… The next article will be posted shortly and is about Push Pull, Takeaways, and Sexual Hoops… stay tuned and you’ll get the scoop!!
- Dubbsy
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Bonsai, one of the new Love Systems instructors, just wrote a post on finding compatible women. The name of the game is finding girls that you naturally get along with and that you find attractive. There is no need for going after girls that are hot but you will never ever want to date because you can’t stand each other (exceptions are one-night stands!). Dating someone with whom you have natural chemistry with is one of the best things ever.
Anyways, check out the article You Will Not Get Every Girl! by Bonsai.
This is something I teach in my seminars, but I’ve never seen it put in a bell curve. Nice touch.
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Interning for Dating Coach Braddock: Value’s Journal
I’m a pretty normal guy. I was born in a small town, graduated from high school and then graduated from college. I moved to LA, got a normal job and have been living a good normal lifestyle.
As I got older, I started to notice more and more of my friends started to pair off with cool girls into relationships. For some reason or other, I stayed single. As normal as I was, there was just SOMETHING that I wasn’t getting.
On my 26th birthday one of my friends from my hometown came to visit me in LA. He was a huge dork in high school, but when he came down he was a new man. Over the weekend, he ended up going to a playboy party and going on dates with playboy girls after the event. I was absolutely amazed, and when I asked him what changed, he told me that he hired a dating coach.
At first I laughed, but in my heart of hearts, I knew I would have to do something. And so, late one night when I sat alone in front of my computer, I opened up a new window and entered into Google “Dating Coach.”
Over the next couple of months I read multiple articles about how to become successful with women. As I became more and more knowledgeable, I started to see that there were a variety of different sources of information and that that some of them contradicted each other. If I was going to learn how to be successful with women and dating I would have to find the best mentor for my goals.
In my mind there were two criteria. First, I wanted to become more successful in my entire life, not just with women. This meant that I would need to find somebody who could help me set goals and eliminate my limiting beliefs. Second, most dating coaches online seemed to talk about sleeping with as many girls as possible, which was not my goal. I just wanted to be able to date some of the cool girls I was meeting through my social circle.
With these criteria in mind, I came across Braddock’s Blog. Braddock is a dating coach who teaches classes on “inner game” which met my first criteria and “social circle mastery” which met my second criteria. I found the best “dating coach” for me.
It turns out that a couple of other friends who were trying to learn how to be successful with women were actually interning with Braddock and suggested that I help out. I jumped at the opportunity. Over the next few months I did a variety of odd jobs until one day I got a call from one of the other interns who said Braddock wanted to meet to talk about the rest of the internship.
Last Thursday, we got together over dinner at a bar in Hollywood. Braddock was there with two other Love Systems instructors, Daxx and Da Hunter. Over dinner we got to know each other. It was pretty entertaining listening as they talked about text messages they were sending to girls. I could tell I would learn a lot. True to the hype, one of the waitresses was ALL over Braddock. Apparently they had a history and it was clear that she really really REALLY liked him. After seeing this there was no doubt in my mind that this guy is legit.
After dinner Braddock gave us a talk that was very motivating. He dropped some dating axioms. For example, dating is boring. The pattern of interaction or VIBE is normal… normal… normal… SPIKE… normal… normal. It’s not SPIKE SPIKE SPIKE SPIKE like a lot of the internet material would have you believe.
Another axiom was that success with women is mostly about giving them the right amount of push (teasing, challenge) and pull (compliments, caring). Every woman has her own specific ratio and you have to figure out her blueprint and give it to her.
Finally he gave us a couple of assignments. First he wanted us to keep track of our thoughts in a journal. Apparently we have 90% of the same thoughts every day. By keeping track of our thoughts we can start to influence those thoughts we have repeatedly into being positive thoughts.
Next, he wanted us to do a “trigger word” exercise. He called over the waitress that he was flirting with and asked her to tell us 10 facts about her. For each fact we should think of a push and a pull. That way we start to internalize those behaviors. He told us we should do this with every girl that we want to establish an emotional connection with.
Finally, he gave us an exercise where he asked us to write down our goals. Apparently Braddock is going to track our progress on his blog and posting our goals is the first step. It’s a little crazy, but I’m committed for two reasons: 1) I’m determined to find an amazing girlfriend and 2) I’ve found the best mentor possible to teach me how to become successful with women.
Until next time,
-Value
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(Above: Kid who needs this list)
I really like this post. Great summary of easy things you can fix that could be the tipping point in making you have much greater success with women. Many of these seem basic, but that’s why I love this list. Being good with women/most things in life is simply mastery of the basics.
If you are new to all of this, lists like this are a great place to start. It can be used as a nice diagnostic tool to see if you have some gapic holes in any of the “must have” basic areas of your identity. Trying to learn all the advanced stuff is a complete waste of your time if you have major deficiencies in the basic areas.
If you read this post and your throat clenched up because 3 or more of the bullet points apply to you, don’t get discouraged, just take some time and focus on those areas until they don’t apply to you anymore. Get these 18 foundational areas covered to help you build a nice foundation before moving into the more complex arenas. To be fair to yourself you need to realize that you may be doing some of the advanced concepts right, but because several of these basic components are missing you are not getting the reaction you should.
As a dating coach I see lots of students who get blown out, NOT because of the things they say, but because of the things they are choosing not to control in regards to dress, hygiene, body language, voice…etc…
Get these handled and you will be light years ahead of most guys.
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Interning For Dating Coach Braddock: J’s Journal
So for the past few months I’ve been doing some light intern work for Braddock, one of my buddies was already putting in work for him and he hit me up asking if I’d like to jump on board. The only thing was, I never met the guy up until last night and that’s when I met, Braddock, Daxx and Da Hunter. I saw Daxx speak at the PUA-Summit so I recognized him right when I walked in the door.
When I got there it was just us four and they were showing me the ballsy and most random texts that they were sending to girls that they had met during the LS Super Conference in Las Vegas. Some pretty funny stuff. A few minutes later the other intern that has been doing stuff for Braddock showed up, we’ve met before at a few seminars/lair meetings and then my buddy who got us the internship showed up.
After everybody was there everybody started ordering drinks and food. They got this mini keg that was pretty damn big. We sat around bullshitting with one another, talking about anything and everything. I talked to Daxx about peacocking and we both agreed that some people take it to the extreme when doing it. We all ordered our food from the waitress who Braddock has been seeing/gaming and we bs’d a little more until our food came.
After we ate Braddock started to talk about what he wanted from us as interns. The dude means business - you slack, you’re cut. It’s understandable coming from a LS instructor of his skill and knowledge. I mean dude puts in a lot of work and wants his interns to do the same. Next he went on to explain how he wanted us to do certain exercises every night after we got home from picking up girls. The exercises are crazy and after you hear him talk about the brain and how it works, you start to understand why he has you do these every night after you get home. All good stuff.
He also asked us to write down 2 to 3 goals in DETAIL so he can help us achieve them, he said to be really honest and not to fake the funk since sometimes you shoot for a goal and when you get it you’re thinking to yourself, “I didn’t want this.” The info and the crazy stuff he was talking about threw me through a little loop since I’ve been doing this stuff for about a year now and have pretty good success at it and yet when he was talking about the brain and how it works it made me want to put in some serious work to get to where I want to be with all of this!
I’m glad my buddy hooked it up, the internship should be a fun ride until we take our first BC. He said by the time we take our BC we should have some rock solid inner game. Going out and working on inner game plus the exercises he’s having us do will definitely have us running around bars like beasts.
-J
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Daxx and I Are Looking For An SEO Intern
Daxx and I are looking for an intern that is willing to do whatever it takes to in return for FREE training with us.
* We are looking for someone that has an extensive background in SEO and who can put the time and energy into helping us optimize our blogs.
* We will want extensive advice on our posts, what we can do to optimize our blogs in general etc… but will also expect an extensive amount of effort on your end with implementing the changes to our blogs.
* The internship responsibilities will be focused on SEO, but could run a gambit of responsibilities.
The internship is a lot of fun, BUT it is a lot of hard work. We expect a fast turn around and we expect you to go the extra mile without us asking. If we have to beg you to return emails or produce an outcome, you will be replaced.
Tips For Applying
* We are NOT at all concerned with your game expertise, as a matter of fact, please don’t tell us how good or bad you are with women.
* Focus on telling us about your SEO knowledge, what you can do to help us expand our blogs, and the amount of time you will have each week to allot to this.
* Please tell us where you are from, your age, and your SEO background.
* We will receive numerous applications, so please keep it short and succinct.
How To Apply:
Send Daxx an email at daxx@lovesystems.com with your skills, and what you can do that would make us want to choose you. Becoming an intern will mean 1 or 2 hours 5 days per week for 6 months. The first month will be a trial period. (We do a trial period because some interns wash out after a few weeks).
What do you get out of this internship
At the end of the 6 month internship you will receive FREE:
* A full Comprehensive Bootcamp hosted by me and Daxx
* My Inner Game seminar
* My SCM seminar
* My Strippers and Hired Guns seminar.
Good luck,
Savoy’s Post On Inner Game
I really like Savoy’s post on Inner Game. I know he is not huge on most of the inner game stuff out there, because it’s usually non actionable self help crap. This is why the Inner Game Seminar had to be off the charts before he would allow Mr. M and me to teach it. It’s cool to see the rare inner game post from Savoy. Despite his disgust for most inner game stuff out there, when you can talk him into breaking down complex game concepts, he’s amazing at it. I think it goes back to his days as a consultant. He can take seemingly complex concepts and sum them up in very easy to digest models.
Take a look at the Triad Model. Savoy has taken the complex monster of dating science and reduced it to it’s 3 most fundamental pillars. I can remember when we were all in London sitting in Mr. M’s room and Savoy was listening to Mr. M and I argue about a really important piece of Social Circle Mastery. We were having a hard time explaining it and breaking it down into a simple chart and formula that people could easily understand. Savoy (trying to work and more annoyed by our arguing than trying to be helpful) stood up and goes, “Here. Give me that marker. Look you retards, what you both mean is simply XYZ. Now, can you two shut up? You guys argue like 2 little girls.”
Savoy is the wise sage of the company for sure.
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Lesson 4 From Dating Coach Mr. M :
Don’t Play “Tell Her” With Tranies
When you are a dating coach you get bored just running normal game on girls. After a couple hundred bootcamps and thousands of approaches, you don’t get the same rush you did when you were first starting out. So to keep things fresh we have come up with a couple of brutal games that really push the social pressure.
Game 1: “Veto”
I believe veto was developed by Soul and Mr. M. The way veto works is when your friend sees a hot girl ANYWHERE and he says, “veto” you have to go and approach her with a legit opener right away or you have to go to the ATM and give your friend $50 dollars right there on the spot.
“Veto” means that they are vetoing any possible excuses you can come up with for not approaching. “Dude, she’s on the phone/to hot/ordering Subway/giving CPR….etc” You either approach or cough up the money, NO MATTER WHAT THE SITUATION!!! Rule number 71…..No excuses, play like a fucking champion.
If you approach, whether you it goes well or not, you get to keep your cash. Once you’ve gone, then you hold the veto power. Now it’s your turn to get your friend whenever you see fit. I tried to be generous with Dahunter and pick girls in reasonable situations. He, however was a complete fucking terrorist with this game.
He would get me on girls in the corner of a club surrounded by her boyfriend, all her friends, and a fucking body guard. He “vetoed” me at the gym one time on one of the hottest girls I’ve ever seen while she was being stretched by her personal trainer. I got him a few times on the car behind us in the middle of the drive thru.
I’ve heard stories of Soul “vetoing” Mr. M on girls walking down the other side the street and him having to jog about 2 city blocks to catch up with her in London to save $50 dollars.I’ve also heard stories from Mr. M about him getting Soul on girls walking with their mom’s. BRUTAL!
If you want to get over social pressure….find a friend and play “veto.” After a week you will either be forged out of steel or you will be immune to mase depending on how brutal your friend is.
Game 2: “Tell Her”
This game was imported to the US by Daxx. Since he has moved to Los Angeles I’ve had to squeeze lemon in my eye several times and I currently owe two more. God damn it hurts too. I’d rather get my dick caught in my zipper than have lemon squeezed in my eye.
The way “Tell Her” works is that you wait for one of your friends to make a comment about a girl that is walking by/somewhere in the room. If you can say, “Tell her” before he says “tell her” then you have to walk over there and tell her EXACTLY what you said about her. Maybe you said, “That girl is really cute.” (Anyone that called “Tell her” on that is an Amateur). A seasoned veteran will wait for you to say something like, “I’d like to fuck her brains out and destroy those amazing tits” and then say, “Tell her.”
A complete asshole (Daxx) will wait until I say something like, “Wow, that is a disgusting fat bitch. I wouldn’t fuck her with your dick and Aaron pushing.” This is when Daxx will say, “Tell her.” What a scumbag.
I don’t mind saying sexual stuff or mildly rude things, but I refuse to destroy someones soul. This is why my left eye is constantly swollen and I look stoned. Maybe the lesson here is that I should quit talking shit about fat girls….hmmm
Either way, he is a complete asshole. He got Dahunter when we were on a rooftop bar in downtown LA. Dahunter said, “See that group of girls? I would fuck any and all of them, damn they are hot.” This was immediately followed by Daxx saying, “Tell em.” Ouch….
Comments that have resulted in a lemon in my eye….
Braddock: “Our waitress would be alright if she would lose about 30 pounds of the hog flesh.”
Braddock: “That girl should look into some acai berry fat burner.”
Braddock: “That is easily one of the top 5 ugliest haircuts I’ve ever seen.”
Braddock: “Who talks like that, that girl was obviously touched by her uncle when she was 5.”
Comment that got Mr. M slapped by a tranny…
While standing at the bar in the Hardrock Mr. M saw 3 tranny prostitutes standing with their pimp. He leaned into the group and said, “That is one ugly mother fucker right there.” Ooops…..Daxx was in the group, so of course he says, “Tell her.”
Mr. M, being an attorney, should have tried to escape this trap by informing Daxx that “Tell Her” is actually incorrect. It would actually be “Tell Him” which is a game we don’t play. Mr. M being 6 beers and 3 shots deep wasn’t sharp enough to catch this technicality and walked up to the giant tranny and said, “You are one ugly mother fucker.”
Mr. M walks back to the group and is immediately followed by the giant tranny. A few more words are exchanged and then the tranny wound up and gave him a firm smack on the face. I guess he/she doesn’t appreciate the fact that Mr. M was simply playing like a champion. Figures. Some people don’t understand what it takes to be a champion and resent those that do.
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College Game Q and A With Dating Coach Dubbsy
College Game Question:Hey Braddock,
I’ve just finished your college game videos and they are fucking amazing. I, no offense, thought it wouldn’t be that good and thought you could just use regular game for college (I’m a freshman at Rutgers university) but after watching your videos and reading your blog I was blown away. It was not only amazing, it is essential for anyone who wants to get girls in college…its just so awesome.I would, first of all, like to thank you for making these videos and letting others view them from free on your blog because I’m a little low on money being a college student and all and really appreciated it. When I do save enough money I will def. take a bootcamp with you (once again its a little impractical right now because I have to pay for tuition) cause your just fucking awesome (in case you didn’t catch on from the other 10 times I’ve said it).I would also like to ask you a question about college game, there is this one girl in my class who I am gaming and on Thursday I’m planning on building some commonality between us then eventually, when she does know me a lot more (she only knows me a little bit right now), tease her to get attraction from her. Anyway I was wondering if this would work to get girls in college, i know you also need a high social value, even if they have boyfriends? I was also wondering if there are things that you can talk about so they really “connect” with you? Like would I just talk about music and TV and pop culture in general with her in order to build rapport before teasing?
Any advice on the topic would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks a lot,
-Jason
Response from Dubbsy
Dubbsy is a former student of mine and he has helped me on numerous bootcamps. He is a rising star for sure. He recently graduated college. We have very similar mindsets and strategies and I’ve been extremely busy lately so I asked him if he would field the questions from this email.
Take it away Dubbsy….
Hey what’s up Jason,
You got some great questions, and I’m gonna list them and write my answers in bold…
“I would also like to ask you a question about college game, there is this one girl in my class who I am gaming and on Thursday I’m planning on building some commonality between us then eventually, when she does know me a lot more (she only knows me a little bit right now), tease her to get attraction from her. Anyway I was wondering if this would work to get girls in college, i know you also need a high social value, even if they have boyfriends?”
Ok I’m going to assume that by “knows you a little” you mean you guys have met, shared some banter in class, know each others names and maybe what dorm you’re in. Which isn’t bad, in fact this can be good as long as you establish situational value and buzz, and you can do this by talking to everyone else in and around your class. A favorite tactic of mine was to make friends with all the people in the classes next to mine , so that in the hallway all these random people would be coming up to me and talking to me about some past/future night and then walk away, showing that I have friends and am social with people not only in class, but outside of it as well (aka what Braddock said in his youtube clips to network like a mother fucker!! andwhile you’re busy doing this just keep the conversations between you two casual and neutral rapport, unless she pushes the envelope, you want to mirror the level of intent and interest she’s giving you). They can be girls or guys, doesn’t matter as long as they’re not talking to you about the intense chess match last friday at the library’s anniversary party, or some Furry style gang-bang party, this is a high value trait, and as Braddock says, “girls will fill in other traits they don’t know about you with assumed high value traits”, GOD
THAT IS SO MONEY!! and if used correctly has the some of the most powerful impact on girls I’ve ever seen.
Ok so she’s seen you have friends in and outside of class, maybe the teacher likes you in a way that’s not kiss assey and over reaching (ie, sucking up and baking muffins and doing random unmentioned “extra credit” assignments), where do you go now? can you just jump in and tease tease tease, qualify, comfort, and get a hand job under the desk?? IIIIIIIII don’t think so ;-). From here you have to just start a conversation. If she sits next to you, ask her if she get’s what the teacher is talking about, draw a dots/tic tac toe board and pass it to her, smile stretch and get started. if she laughs but doesn’t play, don’t be bummed, and don’t invest too much in conversation during class, because she might actually be there to learn and not be chatted up by guys (why, I don’t know, girls are just weird like that ;-) ), but after class start up a new conversation, talk about how you’re happy that it’s your last class and are looking forward to tonight, it’s almost socially awkward for her to not ask what’s going on tonight, so tell her about the big party that’s being passed around campus (if you don’t know about them then you need to network more!!).
If she doesn’t sit next to you, just walk up and either say “Hi, so did you have any idea what he was talkin about during that whole Gross National Product formula thing?” or “Listen I’m gonna give you a head start and warn you, I saw you falling asleep and I think it’s only fair that the professor knows about this, I mean he’s grading on a curve and if you fail that gives me a better chance of getting an A :).” Don’t bring up the parties you’ve THROWN or GONE TO, because that’s kinda braggy, instead ask her about where she parties, talk to her about how you’re feeling like you’re finally building your strong group of friends here and comin into your own at the school.
By all means if she asks you about parties, your friends, plans, etc, answer, and invite HER AND HER FRIENDS (real important) to come to them. 1) all girls feel more comfortable going to places with their friends, especially if they don’t know if they’ll have any friends there…2) this makes it seem like you’re just the cool guy inviting her to the party, which will create buzz for you with her friends and anyone else they talk to, which will only increase your value in their eyes and they’ll even play you up to her as really cool as well. 3) if they come to the party and ask for you, now you’re the cool dude who brought a group of hot girls to party which will increase your social value with them and get you more invites and notoriety. But say she doesn’t ask you about it, don’t push it, you want to be in neutral rapport with her, ask her about the work in class, if she gets it, can she explain this one part to you, can you cheat off her on the tests (if she doesn’t get the work you can tease her for not being able to cheat off her and now you have to change seats).
Study with her for tests, and by study I mean pretend to study and have her over or go over to her place and bullshit and get off topic, leave the door open and meet as many people as you can in the dorm, look at YouTube clips, check out her movies or her posters, be in and out of her room, if you know people in her building drag her to introduce her to them. Unless it’s on, if she says yeah come over to study and you show up to her drunk with a ruler, plaid mini skirt, white half-unbuttoned blouse with no panties on, you better take care of business or donate your cock to some transgender operation subject that will. But otherwise, in class, you really just want to avoid conversation that seems like a pick up, or things you would run out at a bar or club, because she’s there to learn (and a side effect meet people and network) but not to be gamed, at least not blatantly because that’s just socially awkward.
The main point to get across there is to let her assume high value traits of yours based off of what she sees, until she actually makes the slightest effort to get to know you/hang out with you/talk to you/etc.. then you have the upper hand in the power ratio and can gradually escalate along the emotional progression/LS triad model, start qualifying building wide and deep rapport all the while physically and logistically escalating all OUT OF CLASS!! And in the name of all things holy remember that NEUTRAL RAPPORT DOESN’T MEAN BE THE NICE PUSSY GUY. I’m from near your area and you have to be able to bust balls and show boundaries and that you’re not a push over pussy guy, you just don’t know about her yet and aren’t blatantly open with EVERYONE you meet.
If you want some more specific feedback to your situation just ask something more direct like… “I’ve tried to get her out to meet me using XYZ tactics, but it’s not working now what?” lemme know and we’ll figure something out!
” I was also wondering if there are things that you can talk about so they really “connect” with you? Like would I just talk about music and TV and pop culture in general with her in order to build rapport before teasing?”
A lot of times guys in college don’t know that they start out on a higher level than they think. And what I mean by that is, you two already have a good amount in common for groundwork, you’re both at the same school, same class, which could already suggest a bunch of other similarities like your major, interests, hobbies, area you’re from (take my Alum for example, was in the center of a state, so roughly 80% of the population was from that state, and only about 30 miles radius, max, away from it), and where your general mindset is at right now. You’re a freshmen so think about where you mindset is at right now? You want to make friends, meet people, be invited to all the cool parties, have plans for every night of the week, not that you’ll follow through with them but just as back-ups. Girls are the same way, but they know that by just being friendly with people it’ll happen because that’s how the pretty people navigate through life, and that’s how they’ve done it. So that’s how you have to do it, or make it seem like you do it.
So to get more specific to your question… you want to start out on the general topics and mindsets listed above, with spikes of personal shit in between. So an example of this could be “So what about Art history 101 really gets you goin ;)? (said as a joke and I’m pretty sure art history 101 is a mandatory intro course). And maybe she says “I don’t care about any of this history stuff, I just took it because it had Art in the title and I need it for my major.” “ohhh so you’re an artist, that’s pretty cool I don’t have an artistic bone in my body. You paint?” and now you’re on to something a little personal, but then go back to broad shit so you don’t come on real try hard or gamey.
The thing about college, especially freshmen year, is that people are there to experiment and do new and crazy shit. They’ve just been in a small area where everyone knows them and judges them and are coming to a big place where they don’t have to worry about the consequences of their actions (in terms of reputation) as much. You don’t need to build deep rapport and share a shit ton of commonalities to get laid, hell you barely have to share a conversation! Just being in the right place at the right time can and will get you laid in school, but in order to be there you need to follow Braddock’s College Game and Social Circle Mastery outlines.
And remember that keeping the fun and light frame, combined with you two seeing each other a lot, establishes comfort and assumes familiarity, which is really all you need to sleep with girls in you meet in school, that with the traits Braddock talks about in his video’s (buzz, situational value, etc…). If you want to make this girl your girlfriend then yes you’ll need all the deep comfort and golden mirror and all that jazz, but if you just want to sleep with a lot of hot girls and party, stick with fun and repeated appearance
So I hope this is helpful and you got a lot out of it, and if anything is unclear or needs to be touched upon some more or get more detailed on certain aspects, let me know. Comments and feedback and welcomed and encouraged!!
good luck and keep us posted Jason!!
- Dubbsy
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Savoy’s Relationship Management DVD : “What you can attract, isn’t necessarily what you can keep”
When I first started learning this stuff I assumed that I would learn all the tricks and techniques, snag a supermodel and we would live happily ever after. What I soon realized is that what you can attract, isn’t necessarily what you can keep. The same skills that help you land the girl of your dreams are not always the same one’s that will help you keep her.
Having a healthy and passionate relationship is a whole different ballgame then going to a club and getting a girl chasing you. Our Love Systems founder and dating coach pioneer, Savoy, has been in the game longer then any of us on the team. He’s had more relationships than just about anyone I know and it’s because of that experience that he decided to create the “Relationship Management DVD.” I remember when he was shooting this and organizing the content and I asked him why he would want to do this product with so many sexy options on the table.
He told me that he knew that most guys would rather hear about same night lays, stripper game, social circle mastery, inner game, day game, etc… but that he just gets to many emails from guys struggling to keep girls and that relationship management is a key piece of the game, if not the most important piece. The attraction phase may only last a few minutes, hours, days at the longest….the relationship management phase on the other hand could last years.
It’s one thing to lose a girl because you two were just not compatible, but the last thing you want to do is lose the girl of your dreams because of a lack of knowledge. A lot of guys have no idea what it takes to keep an amazing women. While it can be extremely painful to not know how to attract that beautiful woman that you’ve always wanted, it can almost be worse to consistently get those girls, just to lose them a week or month later. It can really make you a wreck inside.
Savoy’s Relationship Management DVD is the finishing piece if you are a guy looking for a rich long term relationship. Savoy has been around longer than just about anyone in the dating science industry and his body of knowledge really shines through in this product.
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